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Andrei in the office

Arrgh, too damned smart for my own good

So, I went to log onto AIM today from the office. My client logged on and promtly logged off.

This time I know what it is. And i can't believe I did it twice.

My network at home is flakey. So, I set up my AIM client at home to auto log in if it gets dropped. unfortunately, this has an undesirable side effect. When I log in at the office, it logs out my connection elsewhere.

The client at home thinks, "Hey! I've been dropped, I should log right back in again." It does and knocks me at the office off.

Yes, it's net tennis. I knock it off, it knocks me off.

Okay...Hmmn, I'm smarter than this.

The last time I tried this I figured (WARNING TECHIE STUFF COMING)
I'll secure shell (telnet) to my box at home. Kill the AIM process entirely and log in...

Unfortunately, at the time, the computer at home was my laptop. The laptop that I'd used not two days earlier to demonstrate our software at work. For those that don't know.... I'm a developer on Norton Utilities for the Macintosh. One of the other products we develop is Norton Personal Firewall.

So, I showed off NPF at a meeting 2 days earlier. And left it on the computer. I've now complained to the co-worker in the ext office over from mine. If any of you were curious. No, there is no backdoor to Norton Personal Firewall. I repeat, I am a Norton Software Engineer; there is no way to defeat the security of tis package.

*keep thinking* So the last time I tried this...I turned to my contact. The product manager of AIM for Mac at AOL:
(Name Changed)

(11:31:06)fraalandru:Is there a way to change your AIM password without logging on with the client?
(11:31:43)AOLPGM:I can't answer password questions without knowing who you are exactly
(11:33:41)fraalandru:I'm embarassed to admit. i'm usually on as LordAndrei. I left my client on at home with auto relog in enabled. I was testing our company's firewall. When I try logging in here, I bounce the client at home which logs on and bounces me here. The firewall doesn't permit me to ssh into the machine to kill the client. My only guess is to change the password so it can't log in again.
(11:34:26)AOLPGM:there is a forgot my password url
(11:34:30)AOLPGM:that you can go to
(11:34:52)AOLPGM:and it will send your password to the email address you have registered with AIM
(11:35:16)fraalandru:That just remailed my password to me. I know my password. I want to prevent the client at home from successfully logging in.
(11:35:28)fraalandru:I have the feeling I have no choice but to wait it out until I get home.
(11:35:40)AOLPGM:ah .... I see what you are saying
(11:36:06)AOLPGM:no there isn't a way to change your password unless you are logged into the client
(11:36:42)fraalandru:Well, the good news is, the software works as billed ;)

But today I realize...My laptop is in the shop. It's my tower that's to blame today. But, waitaminute....I don't have Personal Firewall on that system...Oh, I don't have SSH enabled on that system....Maybe FTP..no. Apple File Shaing!! Aha... I'm in.

Now in real time.
I feel like I'm Matthew Brodrick in WarGames looking for his grades.

Log into the file server. Delete the App.
"Can't delete. file is open"

Didn't think that would work...

Port scan to see where I can get in:
427, // Apple File share identification
548, // AFP over TCP
1033 // AIM incoming messages.

Well, folks. If you want to IM me today...Im to FraAlandru as for the moment, LordAndrei is locked up on a Mac running OSX.

Now, this isn't an invitation for the net to try to hack into my machine, but if anyone has any ideas...they are warmly welcomed.

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On a non-techie level, this is amusing. Once my computer is up and running again (had to break it down to revamp my friggin' room!), and Justin gets a look at this, I'm sure he'll be laughing his ass off. ;) Good luck to you!

*huggles 'n' snuggles*

Oh, yeah. let the QA guy take a look.

I've shown this to three friends in IS. It's just not happening for me today ;)


Re: Oh, yeah. let the QA guy take a look.

The QA guy, being a QA guy and obsessed with process improvement, always remembers to shut down his Trillian before he leaves for work or anywhere else he might need to launch AIM. The best solution is to solve the problem before it starts. :)

The only idea I have is to exploit a feature of AIM: it locks you out after a few failed logins.

I would think you could trigger this feature somehow, figure out when it will allow you to try again, then make sure your client is the first to try to log back in. Also, the AIM at home may have some timeout feature where it -stops- trying to autologin after enough failures, I don't know.

Still, changing the password may backfire even if you succeeded, as it might trigger this 'login failed umpteen times, numbnuts, now go sit in the corner for a timeout' feature, thus locking LordAndrei out again.

Hell, I dunno. It's 3am. I'm groggy. :)


Yes I find it amusing also since this isnt the first time you have done this..... and ya know this Fra Alandru guy is a lot more talkitive then that Lord Andrie guy.... *wink*

Whistles innocently.

Re: More talkative

Innocent my ass..... I like him a little more too.... seems like he could be a little more playfull.... Whoot Whoot.... I like it. :o)

Here is a conversation I had with a female colleague about my continuing to attempt to solve this quandry....

(10:38) Andrei: At least you have to admit... I tried.
(10:38) Her: yes. valient effort
(10:38) Her: i would not have been able to do that much.
(10:39) Andrei: *lol* I could always try to to a Denial of service attack on the router leading up to my machine. And while it's down, log in and change the password
(10:39) Her: jesus
(10:41) Andrei: It's a challenge now. I talked to my coworker. We agree. Bad plan. They'd trace the Denial Attack to Symantec. Very bad.
(10:41) Her: yes, i was going ot mention that
(10:42) Andrei: I worked in IS for 3 years. it's just a chalenge now to figure it out. It's all problem solving.
(10:42) Her: geek
(10:43) Andrei: damn skiffy!
(10:43) Her: ?
(10:43) Andrei: Damn straight. Geek and proud of it.
(10:43) Her: heeh
(10:43) Her: i am a wanna be geek
(10:43) Andrei: You're a geek
(10:44) Her: naw, i am a wanna be
(10:44) Andrei: What are your certs in?
(10:44) Her: microsoft.
(10:44) Her: novell
(10:44) Her: brocade
(10:44) Her: i cant do shit with MS now, my certs are out of date
(10:44) Andrei: I have no certs. Point for you .
(10:44) Her: same with novell
(10:44) Her: you dont need certs.
(10:45) Her: it is a piece of paper that says you can pass tests in one manner or anohter
(10:45) Andrei: let's see. How many machines do you have at home. (working, or in parts, doesn't matter)
(10:46) Her: alot
(10:47) Andrei: Point for you
(10:47) Her: hehe
(10:47) Andrei: Do you or have you ever owned any odd sexual toys. A hanging swing for example?
(10:48) Her: heh
(10:49) Andrei: Congratulations. You are a geek.
(10:49) Her: hehe

(10:47) Andrei: Do you or have you ever owned any odd sexual toys. A hanging swing for example?

Now where does this fit in? ::raises a brow::


I thought that was odd myself. Sure, some geeks are on the sexual fringe, or in the sexual vanguard depending on how you look at it, but by no means all. :)

Not all computer users are on the sexual fringe.

All computer users on the sexual fringe are geeks ;)

Well personal opinion only ;)

Standard geek test... ;)

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