From: cahwyguy	Date: January 31st, 2007 11:10 pm (UTC)		(Link)

I watched it recently on HBO. I found it someone interesting, but the main version of the joke wasn't funny to me. However, the reverse version of the joke was hilarious... even though it uses exactly the same premise.

	From: mr_dark	Date: January 31st, 2007 11:33 pm (UTC)		(Link)

My favorite two points:

Pat Mcann's completely clean version. A perfect example of what humor can be in the mind of a truly funny comedian. Managing to remove all of the obscenity that virtually every other comedian saw as the point of the joke, he mutates it a little and manages to perform a rendition that's one of the funniest in the film. Martin Mull gets a runner-up nod for his completely different Aristocrats joke. His joke was, in my mind, funnier than The Aristocrats, but most importantly he just patently refused to perform the joke demanded of him as part of his participation in the film. His insistence to follow the beat of his own drum just really impressed me.

The second moment has to be Gilbert Gottfried at the Hefner roast. Gottfried is a genius, a complete genius, but like so many geniuses before him, he is misunderstood and highly irritating to most. So soon after 9/11, he steps up there and -knows- the crowd is on edge, -knows- everyone will be tip-toeing around the subject. He jumps right in and gets called down by the crowd. Okay, fine...you can see his resolve form. He's pissed. People come to a comedy event and have the nerve when the comedian dares to cross their sacred cow du jour?

What follows is comedy as assault. He just pretty much says 'fuck it' and lays into the crowd, unleashing this fabled comedic equivalent of tactical nuclear weapons. The result is what I love the best: as one of the interviewees said, it was -exactly- what was needed. New York needed to laugh, they needed to blow off that tension. Gottfried's genius is that he refused to step down when they were reluctant to take their medicine and just keep pushing.

Can you tell I like the movie? :)

	From: z111	Date: February 1st, 2007 12:51 am (UTC)		(Link)

I can get vulgar with the best of them but I thought that movie was just stupid. I couldn't even watch the whole thing.

But other friends of mine loved it so go figure.

	From: leroy484	Date: February 1st, 2007 02:43 am (UTC)		(Link)
	I managed ...

to make it through once, but some of it was over my top. Jane, on the other hand, watches it whenever she can. I'm not really sure what that means.

	From: elias	Date: February 1st, 2007 03:48 pm (UTC)		(Link)

I was expecting to howl with laughter. That only happened at one point: Kevin Pollack impersonating Christopher Walken telling the joke.

	From: quetz	Date: February 1st, 2007 06:35 pm (UTC)		(Link)

I don't see it as running completely counter to Thelema...the point is to challenge your audience's comfort zone and to expand their horizons, the task of any teacher. For some you may be providing a stepping-stone towards finding their True Will, for many you may merely be opening a window, but you would not be doing anything counter to their will...after all, they choose whether or not to listen to you. It isn't as if you're strapping them down with their eyes open, Clockwork Orange style, and making them watch the movie.